?url_ver=Z39.88-2004&rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Adc&rft.title=HETEROPHENOMENOGY+VERSUS+CRITICAL+PHENOMENOLOGY%3A+A+DIALOGUE+WITH+DAN+DENNETT&rft.creator=Velmans%2C+Max&rft.subject=Cognitive+Psychology&rft.subject=Philosophy+of+Mind&rft.subject=Philosophy+of+Science&rft.description=ABSTRACT.+The+following+is+an+email+interchange+that+took+place+between+Dan+Dennett+and+myself+in+the+period+14th+to+28th+June%2C+2001.++The+discussion+tries+to+clarify+some+essential+features+of+the+%22heterophenomenology%22+developed+in+his+book+Consciousness+Explained+(1996)%2C+and+how+this+differs+from+a+form+of+%22critical+phenomenology%22+implicit+in+my+own+book+Understanding+Consciousness+(2000)%2C+and+developed+in+my+edited+Investigating+Phenomenal+Consciousness%3A+new+methodologies+and+maps+(2000).+The+departure+point+for+the+discussion+is+a+paper+posted+on+Dan's+website+that+summarises+a+related+debate+between+Dan%2C+David+Chalmers+and+Alvin+Goldman+(Dennett%2C+2001).++To+make+the+discussion+easier+to+follow%2C+the+multiple+embeddings+have+been+removed+(restoring+the+sequence+in+which+the+comments+were+written).+I+have+also+corrected+a+few+typos+and+grammatical+errors.+However%2C+the+text+of+the+emails+remains+exactly+the+same.++%0A+++In+Round+1%2C+I+suggest+that+scientific+investigations+of+consciousness+are+better+described+as+a+form+of+%22critical+phenomenology%22+that+accepts+conscious+experiences+to+be+real+rather+than+as+a+%22heterophenomenology%22+which+remains+neutral+about+or+denies+their+existence.++Dan+replies+that+I+have+misunderstood+his+position+-+he+doesn't+deny+that+conscious+experiences+exist.+Conscious+experiences+just+don't+have+the+first-person+phenomenal+properties+that+they+are+commonly+thought+to+have+and%2C+in+his+view%2C+science+remains+neutral+about+the+nature+of+such+properties.++%0A+++In+Round+2%2C+I+agree+with+Dan+that+science+initially+remains+neutral+about+how+to+understand+the+nature+of+conscious+experiences.++Nevertheless%2C+the+phenomenology+of+consciousness+provides+the+data+that+scientists+are+trying+to+understand.+A+better+understanding+of+data+does+not%2C+in+general%2C+make+the+data+disappear.+I+also+ask%2C+%22if+you+remove+the+phenomena+from+phenomenal+consciousness%2C+in+what+sense+is+whatever+remains+%22consciousness%22%3F++And%2C+if+one+removes+all+the+phenomenal+content+from+what+one+takes+consciousness+to+be%2C+doesn't+this+amount+to+a+denial+of+the+existence+of+%22consciousness%22+in+any+ordinary+sense+of+this+term%3F++Dan's+reply+likens+beliefs+in+phenomenal+properties+to+the+belief+in+evil+spirits+causing+disease.++He+has+no+doubts+that+diseases+such+as+whooping+cough+and+tuberculosis+are+real%2C+but+this+doesn't+require+him+to+believe+in+evil+spirits.++And%2C+what's+left%2C+once+one+removes+phenomenal+properties%2C+is+what+a+zombie+and+a+so-called+conscious+person+have+in+common%3A+a+given+set+of+functional+properties+that+enable+them+to+carry+out+the+tasks+we+normally+think+of+as+conscious.++%0A+++In+Round+3%2C+I+summarise+our+similarities+and+differences.+We+agree+that+first-person+reports+are+not+incorrigible+and+that+third-person+information+may+throw+light+on+how+to+interpret+them.++We+also+agree+that+first-person+reports+are+reports+of+%22something%22%2C+although+we+disagree+about+the+nature+of+that+something.++I+suggest+that+Dan+is+sceptical+about+first-person+reports+rather+than+heterophenomenologically+%22neutral%22+(e.g.+when+he+likens+belief+in+phenomenal+properties+to+belief+in+evil+spirits).+++While+we+agree+that+science+is+likely+to+deepen+our+understanding+of+consciousness%2C+I+repeat+that%2C+unlike+the+replacement+of+old+theories+by+better+theories%2C+a+deeper+understanding+of+phenomena+does+not+in+general+replace+the+phenomena+themselves.+Rather+than+third-person+data+replacing+first-person+reports%2C+the+former+are+required+to+make+sense+of+the+latter%2C+making+their+relationship+complementary+and+mutually+irreducible.++In+fact%2C+there+are+many+cases+where+science+takes+the+reality+of+first-person+phenomenology+seriously%2C+for+example+in+the+extensive+literature+on+pain+and+its+alleviation.+If+this+can't+be+squeezed+into+an+exclusively+third-person+view+of+science%2C+then+we+will+just+have+to+adjust+our+view+of+science+-+something+that+a+%22critical+phenomenology%22+achieves+at+little+cost.+At+the+time+of+this+editing%2C+Dan+has+not+replied.%0A.+%0AReference.+Dennett%2C+D.+(2001)+The+fantasy+of+first-person+science.%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fase.tufts.edu%2Fcogstud%2Fpubpage.htm%0A&rft.date=2001&rft.type=Other&rft.type=NonPeerReviewed&rft.format=text%2Fhtml&rft.identifier=http%3A%2F%2Fcogprints.org%2F1795%2F1%2FDennett_%2528edited_final_version%2529.htm&rft.identifier=++Velmans%2C+Max++(2001)+HETEROPHENOMENOGY+VERSUS+CRITICAL+PHENOMENOLOGY%3A+A+DIALOGUE+WITH+DAN+DENNETT.+++++(Unpublished)++&rft.relation=http%3A%2F%2Fcogprints.org%2F1795%2F